My wife and I were very TBM several years ago when the bishop, a marriage and family therapist of 20+ years asked him before his baptism interview, with both of us in the room about masturbation and touching himself. A 7 year old! We were both in shock but did not know what to say or do, the church has been a huge source of guilt and shame for me as a father. I was blown away that the bishop could be so brainwashed and brain-dead and a practicing marriage and family therapist to ask a kid about touching himself and masturbation many years before they even understand what the hell that is. In front of their parents.